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Pairing canaries.

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I recently obtained a couple canaries to breed with my existing make and female white. 

the two birds on the new bird on the top is a cross between a Yorkshire and American, he will be paired with the crested white female. You can see she already built a nest.

The other two on the bottom is a white male and a green female. I can see the remaking losing its feathers. 

What do you think of these pairing?



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The first pair on top (white female + yellow male) is a great pairing, go for it.  My expectation is, they will produce at least 50% white crested and 50% yellow.  Some of the yellow young's may also born crested either way they will be a beautiful young's.

The second pair (white male + green ) Also a great pair as long as the green hen has no white feathers in her tail or wings, if so i consider her dominant too therefore the young's will born with lethal gene just as breeding 2 white dominant pair.

Either ways, if the green hen still molting she should not be bred until she is done molting and ready for breeding.

Good luck. 



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Thank you. The crested white female started building a nest as soon as she saw the new male. I have them in separate cages now. With your advice I'm going to wait on breeding them now.

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Dean:

Are you saying that you shouldn't breed TWO white canaries together ???? How do you get MORE white canaries ???   I have 7 totally white canaries that I was hoping to breed someday.

what is this 'lethal gene factor' thing ???

 

Toni



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Toni,

sine i was a teenager, i LOVED white canaries. my dad never used to ,ate two white canaries... and i always noticed a YELLOW feather on the wings. i always asked him why dont u mate the two whites together? his answer would be they will not have good outcome. i asked WHY and his answer was I DONT KNOW.

he noticed this from his amature experience. 

Thanks To the CANARY MAN, now we know why. on the wing of a whit canary if u see one or two yellow feathers than this is called a Dominant white and should ONLY be bred with Yellow canary, if u bred it with a Dominant white then thats the lethal factor, almost 25% of the eggs will not hatch and the chicks will be born with weak immune system and they will not be holding the WHITE GENE. a canary with NO yellow feathers on the end of the wing is a Recessive white and thats the one i LOVE. this can be bred to another Recessive white and all the chicks will be recessive white.

so check ur canaries and let us know



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All my white canaries are pure white.......no yellow anywhere.

Now I do have a white/yellow mosaic male, he is not in the cage with the white canaries, he is with the yellows and greens.............

So if my colony cage of whites mate, will it be o.k. ???????  I have 2 males and 3 unsexed in there now, and the one with the feather cyst who is recovering, is a female, and she will be placed back in there soon.

 

Toni

 



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Toni as to the pairing yes they are ok, BUT i dont like colont breeding, Dean has also explained it in his website. this will enlarge the chance of inner breeding, plus u will not have the chance to mate canaries of ur choice. recessive canaries, as Dean told me, if bred to green ull get Blue canaries i LOVE blue canaries as well. so i prefere if u not keep them all in one bug flight cage and u should not allow them to free mate. 

Its up to u, but if the canaries u have are white recessive then u can take advantafe of that. ull have good outcome :)

GL Toni



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Toni, let me see please a close up pic's of each canary wings.



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ok, you already have the broken wing bird and the feather cyst bird.......here's what I got when I stuck my phone into the cage with all the other white ones.



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Your birds are beautiful!



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Very pretty birds!!!   I have never seen a white canary in person.  Maybe some day.....I have not ever bred canaries.  Maybe some day.....



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They are very pretty and look to be recessive whites. They look great :) Are these from Q? russians? colorbred?

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Thank you all so much for the compliments on my very special babies, however I have to give all the credit to my breeder here in Colorado, Kay, or Q as some of you know her as.  She has beautiful, healthy, people oriented babies.  I don't know how she parts with them, but she does.  I started with getting a solid white male for my mom last December for a Xmas present and after having that singer in my house for several weeks, I WAS HOOKED !!

I bought a bunch of peach ones, yellow ones, red factors and the white ones.  We still talk almost daily about the best products to feed them, (this is how I found Dean and Canary Science AND RED MAGIC !!!!!!!)  what type of extra greens and fruits they love, supplements, Scatt, etc......

Here's some pictures of my other canaries.    Toni



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What a house full of color you have! You are fortunate to have a great breeder so close and one who will spend time with helping you with the best advice :) Hats off to Q. All the birds look so healthy. I love the last picture with the 2 yellow twins, almost looks like a yellow bird looking in a mirror. I had to look twice. I love them all !

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Yes they look clean and healthy.

Toni, I bit you, the orange canaries you have belong to my blood line, is not true ?  I know my bebies . 



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Dean, you never responded about my pure white canaries, do you think they are dominant or recessive ??

You said 'orange' birds, did you mean the red factors or the orange frost ??  I have 3 orange frosts or red frosts ??  and about 11-12 red factors in the same big cage.

I'm not sure about your blood lines.  I have asked Kay about my birds being related or not, and she says that she gets her birds from all over so that she can keep her blood lines clean to avoid inbreeding. She has never indicated what birds she received from you specifically or what colors they were.  She just said that if I want to maintain their brillant colors I need to use Red Magic and feed them good seed, and not buy anything from Petsmart........lol............

Some of the white birds I have came from canaries she got from Spain, and they have a special band.  In fact, the one with the feather cyst was from that parent.   Of all my Red Factors, she said I should be o.k. to breed any of them because they all have different parents.  Kay's head is like an instant computer and she remembers everything about them, and even when they were born. She is currently waiting for some birds to clear customs in California that she is getting from Italy. 

Toni



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